Some old, some new
Jason:
Recent conversation with God went as follows. Anything following parenthesis is my continued thought after God interrupted me with his answer.
Me: It's self-evident that I have person evidence you exist, but how am I supposed to show other (you exist when they might not believe you even can exist?)
God: Show them by how you live.
Me: Okay, that makes sense. What about defining (who you are? Even if they accept you might exist, they might think you different.)
God: Listen to you friends. Look to the Bible.
Me: What about (the problem of evil?)
God: The bible says I'm good and just.
As it stands, I'm going to stop delving into the obvious aforementioned areas of philosophical thought and simply do what God commanded. In any case, that means not bothering with Anselmnian definitions or ontological proofs. Aside from exegesis of the relevant NT text, I'll leave the work on how I understand God to be good despite how the world seems on the back burner because aside from that potential hole my thought on the subject seems pretty clear and as the Lord himself says, the bible attests to his goodness and justice.
In any case, this'll free me up to focus on more important matters. Exactly what they are yet God hasn't said (probably because I haven't asked). Feel free to respond in any case, as I don't think good Christian discussion will be a hinderance. :D
Brain:
I would definitively say yes. I know this from my own personal experience. I have a friend we'll call Nameless. Nameless was a friend of mine since I was little, but had issues. He had some disorders, and while he was okay at first the catastrophic divorce of his parents stemming form an entirely unhealthy relationship began a long series of problems for him. His appearence (which is the embodiment of nerd) made middle school and high school hell. He never really accepted his step-father, a if either of his parents were Christian they weren't at that point. His mother and step father had a child for whatever reasons has ended up very spoiled. Nameless went over a great number of deep ends. His disorders multiplied, and when once it was fun to do things with him it became impossible to do anything slightly better than him without an explosion cursing and malice. This was exceptionally bad because his two closest friends, me and my best friend, were both very good at video games. While Nameless had also been a master in his time, his degenerating maturity made it increasingly difficult for him to get any great skill in any game, and resulted in it being impossible to sit down and play any games with him any more, cooperative or no. During my time at college, he flip-flopped between bisexual and straight out homosexual, got obsessed with the darker side of furrydom and started claiming his true spirit was a lizard, and recently has taken to joining in and even leading some demon summoning activities.
Somewhere in the middle there, he not only crossed the line of likability, but made sure to put enough distance between him and it that not even the patience of a saint could mask any dislike for him. Honestly, I can't stand to be around him anymore, and can barely have a decent AIM conversation with him. It used to be that I could mention God or Jesus without him flipping out on me. Now he's completely closed to anything remotely Christian, recently clashing with me when I tried to presuade him that summoning demons was a very bad idea.
However, despite his complete lack of likability, I can honestly say that I still love the guy. I can't simply have been through with him what I have and not want to reach out and do something for him despite his extremely angry reactions to my attempts to simply lend a helping hand, let alone save him.
It certainly isn't an easy love, but it is a love nonetheless.
Conclusion:
Good night all!
Recent conversation with God went as follows. Anything following parenthesis is my continued thought after God interrupted me with his answer.
Me: It's self-evident that I have person evidence you exist, but how am I supposed to show other (you exist when they might not believe you even can exist?)
God: Show them by how you live.
Me: Okay, that makes sense. What about defining (who you are? Even if they accept you might exist, they might think you different.)
God: Listen to you friends. Look to the Bible.
Me: What about (the problem of evil?)
God: The bible says I'm good and just.
As it stands, I'm going to stop delving into the obvious aforementioned areas of philosophical thought and simply do what God commanded. In any case, that means not bothering with Anselmnian definitions or ontological proofs. Aside from exegesis of the relevant NT text, I'll leave the work on how I understand God to be good despite how the world seems on the back burner because aside from that potential hole my thought on the subject seems pretty clear and as the Lord himself says, the bible attests to his goodness and justice.
In any case, this'll free me up to focus on more important matters. Exactly what they are yet God hasn't said (probably because I haven't asked). Feel free to respond in any case, as I don't think good Christian discussion will be a hinderance. :D
Brain:
I would definitively say yes. I know this from my own personal experience. I have a friend we'll call Nameless. Nameless was a friend of mine since I was little, but had issues. He had some disorders, and while he was okay at first the catastrophic divorce of his parents stemming form an entirely unhealthy relationship began a long series of problems for him. His appearence (which is the embodiment of nerd) made middle school and high school hell. He never really accepted his step-father, a if either of his parents were Christian they weren't at that point. His mother and step father had a child for whatever reasons has ended up very spoiled. Nameless went over a great number of deep ends. His disorders multiplied, and when once it was fun to do things with him it became impossible to do anything slightly better than him without an explosion cursing and malice. This was exceptionally bad because his two closest friends, me and my best friend, were both very good at video games. While Nameless had also been a master in his time, his degenerating maturity made it increasingly difficult for him to get any great skill in any game, and resulted in it being impossible to sit down and play any games with him any more, cooperative or no. During my time at college, he flip-flopped between bisexual and straight out homosexual, got obsessed with the darker side of furrydom and started claiming his true spirit was a lizard, and recently has taken to joining in and even leading some demon summoning activities.
Somewhere in the middle there, he not only crossed the line of likability, but made sure to put enough distance between him and it that not even the patience of a saint could mask any dislike for him. Honestly, I can't stand to be around him anymore, and can barely have a decent AIM conversation with him. It used to be that I could mention God or Jesus without him flipping out on me. Now he's completely closed to anything remotely Christian, recently clashing with me when I tried to presuade him that summoning demons was a very bad idea.
However, despite his complete lack of likability, I can honestly say that I still love the guy. I can't simply have been through with him what I have and not want to reach out and do something for him despite his extremely angry reactions to my attempts to simply lend a helping hand, let alone save him.
It certainly isn't an easy love, but it is a love nonetheless.
Conclusion:
Good night all!
posted by Matoushin at 6/21/2005 09:05:00 PM
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